Having been forced to use vista for almost 4 months now I can truly say it is so riddled with problems it may be another five years until it is actually ready for the masses. My journey with Vista began about four months ago when I purchased a new Vista ready HP computer, big mistake. After I decided that I would go back to using XP until Vista bugs were worked out I was told by HP that they would not provide any drivers for XP, so basically I was stuck with Vista unless I wanted to try and track down my drivers from the hardware manufacturers which is a process I have not attempted yet. My biggest complaint so far with vista is that it runs incredibly slow, even with maxed out specs. My computer I purchased meets all the specifications plus some but performance is still not nearly as good as it should be, so I can’t imagine a two or three year old pc running it. The few visual effects of Vista are not really worth the resources it consumes so I disabled them from the very beginning hoping to get a little more speed out of a brand new computer with the following specs: Core 2 Duo 2.13, 2 gigs of Ram, 500 gig hard drive, and a Geforce video card with 512 ram, with specs like these windows XP would fly but not Vista it just coast along slowly. I really wanted Vista to live up to the hype and promises Microsoft pushed on us, but if memory serves right XP did take years to perfect and then it was time to upgrade again.
1) Hardware doesn’t run well on Vista (even new hardware)
2) The new security of Vista is overkill most of the time, being prompted for every little thing is bad enough but Vista even labels existing applications as suspicious.
3) Lack of drivers for older and newer hardware.
4) Power options do not change automatically for laptops depending on whether you are plugged or unplugged from a power source.
5) The Start Menu has been redone with a completely different look, unfortunately it is hard to navigate and find what you are looking for.
6) Rebooting a Vista machine is supposed to be faster, but it actually takes longer to reboot than XP.
7) The much talked about Aero UI is great to look at, but with all the resources it takes just to run it all you will be able to do is look at it and not actually work on your pc.
8 ) The many different versions of Vista will be confusing to some basic computer users who are not sure of what exactly they need so in the end they will probably figure more expensive means better and pay for a version they don’t need in the first place.
9) Horrible graphics performance that was not an issue with XP.
10) Although the look is “improved” basic functions like add/remove programs are hard to find.
11) VPN doesn’t work correctly, even though there are a few work arounds for this it is still not an easy process.
12) Software that is supposed to be windows compatible shuts down randomly.
13) Firefox runs ten times better than IE7 in vista.
14) The sidebar is another resource hog.
15) Readyboost seems like a good idea if you can get it to work.
16) DVD playback through windows media player or media center lacks quality.
17) Minor changes to hardware may prevent the system to boot up.
18) No “open with” when right clicking on a file.
19) My brand new Netgear Eva8000 streaming media device will not work wirelessly with vista due to some tcp stack problem in vista (it did work perfect with xp).
20) Windows Improved search is a total mess and not very accurate.
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We are not experiencing any of these issues with our Vista installs on our new DELLs. Don’t be so quick to execute the OS maker. Open your mind and don’t think you must be one of those squeaky (minority) wheels out there.
Dude ,more than half of the reasons are lame.
Some people at my office use Vista (I stick to Ubuntu) and I tried it out. I hate it, it’s terrible. I’d never ‘downgrade’ to it from Windows XP. What a mess.
Maybe when a security pack comes out it’ll be different but I think it’s too ‘techy’ to be stable.
Cheers.
Yes, I also suggest everyone who does’nt know ubuntu yet, to go try it out. And promise, you’ll never go back to windows ever again.
Jase, Flash, Leonid, & Oliver…
Thanks for the comments! I’ve been an avid Microsoft fan for many years now and believe in their server products and the XP OS. However, after being forced to use linux products and apple products for different solutions where I work, I’m starting to see things differently. To simply put it, the other guys products just work; hands down. That is what is of importance to users. Maybe the opinion of Vista is a little harsh but personally I just have not seen anything special. Although, I’m sure after time it will be an excellent OS as is XP.
Also, Leonid and Oliver, you have peaked my interest in Ubuntu. I heard of it but have never actually used it. I’ll let you guys know how it goes.
Peace,
Chris
“Open your mind and don’t think you must be one of those squeaky (minority) wheels out there.”
What the hell are you talking about? Most people I’ve talked to think vista is TOTAL CRAP!
Squeaky minority wheels… what a joke. That guy must be one of the drab PC guys from the mac commercials. Vista will go down as one of the worst microsoft endeavors EVER
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I have been using microsoft office for the last 15 years. I felt very proficient with it. And NOW…it’s like learning it all over again. Navigating around and trying to find what has always been under the file tab, or the edit tab is taking me FOREVER to find. I don’t have that kind of time! What were they thinking? This is so frustrating. I just want my old computer back!
It is horrible! I bought a laptop for myself and a PC for my 9 year-old daughter… What a waste! You have to call and get workarounds for everything. Everytime the computer turns off, you have to reconnect to the printer that needs a workaround to access… UGGHHHH!!!!
Agree.. Vista sucks. A lot. Arrhgh
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Dont forget that the open gl is 89% slower in vista than xp, if you got 100 fps before you get about 11 in vista! WOW! And there is really no EAX so your fancy sound cards really doesn’t do anything except provide you with a port for sound. The sound is made by the cpu.
Here is something I tried to give you an idea how slow it is. Running doom3 on a 3800+, a geforce 6200 with 2 gb of ram with vista ran slower than my little P3 800MHz with 256mb of ram and a geforce 5200 that had xp. Infact Vista was 3 times slower!
That is truely amazing. What in the hell was Microsoft thinking? Fortunately I haven’t had the chance to test Vista out yet, and don’t plan on it any time soon.
unfortunately i have tested tested Vista i keep thinking, what the hell was i thinking, even though i don’t normally use any windows based products (running kubuntu 7.04) i am familiar enough to help friends and family with some tech support. well, now my first response to any request is going to be, “sure i’ll help you, just let be go grab my install disk and we’ll start by giving you a real OS”
I just installed Kubuntu and love it. Although, I can’t access some websites. I installed Firefox and still can’t access various sites. Is there a security setting that I should be concerned with to resolve this issue?
I agree with all 20 reasons. I bought a new Toshiba laptop 6 months ago and vista doesn’t run as fast as it should. It is so bogged down right now that I use my Compaq with XP more than my new toy. Not sure if re-installing vista will even make a difference. Restarts take almost 6 minutes, close to 10 minutes if updates have just been installed. Vista FTL….
I would have to agree ..I’m about to switch back to XP Pro. Its a effert to move or delete files in vista its like i’m trying to work with a 486 again … actually they worked better than vista machine too
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I’ve struggled with Vista since it came out. I have a dual core processor and 2 gig of RAM. I’ve never had an OS run so badly. When XP came out I didn’t say things like how badly I miss Windows 98.
I tried Xandros visual Linux and it’s great. However Adobe does not currently offer software (DreamWeaver, Fireworks, Photoshop, InDesign) for it. Vista runs so poorly that I’ve finally conceded defeat and I bought XP professional today.
It wasn’t my scanner not working that decided me. Nor was it UAC I disabled that the first week. I take many digital photos and have a big external hard drive. It takes forever to open a folder. It got faster when I disabled windows indexing. However it still runs like garbage.
I bought my current laptop with the intention that it would last me for at least three years. After this fiasco I’ll buy Apple going forward. If Microsoft was smart (and I’m starting to question that) they would use Linux and put a bulletproof command interpreter on it. It’s hard to believe how quickly a good company can go wrong.
With the dissatisfaction with Vista and the success of Open office I expect that Microsoft’s future is significantly less bright than its past. However they still have time to have surgery performed to get their head out of their rump.
Microsoft I’ve loved you in the past and I’d like to love you again in the future. Why are you treating us so poorly?
Here’s a challenge for Microsoft, why not design a smaller, simpler OS that runs faster? Or designing an OS that boots in 5 seconds or less?
OK people here is the deal vista sucks really bad i have specs out of this world and xp runs so much better than vista in every way plus there are to many problems to list here for vista also mac is just a name nothing more the pc i built myself runs better than a mac 20x better mac is an over priced name but back to the os vista is not ready yet i am going back to xp until microsoft can fix it nuff said.
I AGREE WITH YOU 100%, VISTA IS SO BIG SHIT THAT I CAN’T DECRIBE WITH WORDS
I used it on 2 occasions now. Why the heck did I install it the second time after I already gave it a chance the first time is beyond me. So frustrating that I will not even install it when the patch comes out. Maybe in like 5 years when the guinea pigs work out the bugs. It wont be me. XP does everything for me and I got to see DX10 with Vista and it is nothing that I would worry about at all. I even use 4 GB of RAM and still Vista reminds me of windows ME all over again. NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!
I have used Vista for two days and I agree that it really sucks. The worst OS I have ever used. Not only is it resourcing demanding (mine is a Lenovo T60, Core Duo 2 2.0G CPU, 2 G RAM and an ATIx1400 128 GPU), it is not half as quite as quiet as the XP. The fan is almost always on when the Vista is running. It is hellish. And I have to click the mouse many more times than I would have if i was running XP. Microsoft sucks!
I just bought my new laptop 2 months ago with Vista on it. What a shitty OS!!! I bought the new computer so I could be more productive with video and such, but oh no, it crashes unexpectedly, and I’ve spent more time downloading fixes and trying to figure out why things aren’t working than I did on my XP laptop. I have a feeling I might have to buy a Mac next time I’m out computer shopping. Why the hell would you release somthing that is sooooooo un-user friendly???
Vista blows. Not only the worst OS I’ve ever used, but maybe one of the worst products I’ve ever encountered. Vista is so bad, it seems like fraud. Within ten minutes of using Vista, you will feel as though you’ve been robbed. You have been. Vista isn’t worth ten cents. In fact, it’s worth a lot of money to AVOID.
As others have done and said, I bought a new laptop (a gorgeous ultra-light) hoping to increase my producitivity, but productivity is a joke on Vista. A joke. You’ll work a lot harder and get less done than on an old XP. Finding stuff is hard. Organizing stuff is arduous. The system is slow. You can cook a meal by the time it boots up. The sytem shuts down randomly, closing programs without backup. Graphics are weak; DVD play is mediocre and not crisp. The whole thing totally blows chow.
Someone should get a hammer dropped on his or her toe for allowing this product to reach consumers. Whatever respect I might have once had for Microsoft is gone. Vista is like a big one-finger salute to Microsoft customers. I hope the PC manufacturers start shipping with XP again, as some are already doing. In the meantime, someone should tell executives at Gateway and Sony et al. that the XP option would be welcome.
I got stuck with vista after my old computer crashed. After installing the damn thing 5 times on my brand new machine (”vista ready” HA!) it finally worked…kinda! I have BIOS issues, Clock issues, heck, I even got a blue screen error a couple times. When I called support guess what they said…? We are not sure what the prob with ur computer is because it is too new!!?? On top of that, there are no good video cards that will work with Vista! As a casual gamer thats a real kick in the you what what! Do urself a favor and build ur own PC with XP pro. Oh how I miss my old XP machine!
I hate to see all you guys suffering with Vista. I personally have not “downgraded” to Vista and don’t plan to ever run the OS. XP Pro is the best thing Microsoft has ever done and I intend to run it as long as possible. If Microsoft is smart they will continue to support XP for a long time to come. I’ve even been experimenting with Ubuntu which is a linux based OS. It’s free, stable, and easy to get around in.
I don’t know why I’m having no problems with Vista at all–all the compatibility issues I’ve had are more or less minor ones. I’ve never had a BSOD with Vista (or when I was on XP, for that matter) on this system, which has been running for 1-2+ years. In fact, I’ve had more problems with my motherboard hardware (evidently ASUS’s BIOS flashing software has this nasty tendency to fry mobos) than Vista. My system is pretty darn good, though (edit: REALLY darn good) and I’m pretty thorough with making sure everything’s set up with windows.
I haven’t gone through the Vista experiences others have, so I won’t comment too much on them (probably because of different system configs), but honestly, what do you mean by the “DVD playback is not crisp”? That’s probably because you’ve never run anything else on your computer and that your new screen just sucks–I really fail to see how two different (digital) DVD decoders can get more “blurry” output than another, unless it was deliberately designed to be worse
Agreed. Vista smokes the blue-vein cigar. A mate said it was great…I tried it…worst thing I’ve ever installed. Never listening to him again! I have a brand spanking new PC that eats XP for breakfast but Vista brings it to its knees - even with the gamut of unnecessary services it runs by default turned off. Speaking of services, wtf is up with this Windows Search indexing crap??? Maybe Microsoft have an alliance with hard disk manufacturers because that thing just about fooked my drive. I’m a .NET software developer and very pro-Microsoft but after seeing their efforts with Vista I’m ashamed to be in the business.
Vista just sucks period…its too slow..its pretty sad that windows xp which was written like 5 years ago runs faster than vista.
VISTA = Shit mine broke after a month its too well the security has an issue when i opened word wtf ohh and i then got a mac brilliant doesnt break but is lame if you want to play games or download stuff i 100 % believe XP is brilliant and im getting my new pc or laptop with it
I purchased 2 quad core computer bundles and a new laptop 2 days ago, all of them have Vista on them. Fire up quad core #1 run the preinstall, Vista Crashes before it’s done… 2nd Time there was an error and had to restart, 3rd time finally able to log on, install some games and programs… World of Warcraft won’t update… easy fix but I had to fire up my Xp machine to figure it out… Security is overkill and extremely annoying (will turn it off later, but should I have to go to that extreme?), games run slower even with 3gb ram, quad core intel, 2600 ati pro card. I have to admit Solitaire looks good full screen on my new 22″ monitor (sarcasm). 2nd computer I just kinda left sitting there without installing everything I did on the first. Tried to burn a few DL dvd’s so I don’t have to rip out the hard drives and transfer everything to the other computers… Keeps crashing during the burn…Always, Always get “Explorer is not responding” and has to restart it… Now my laptop after installing a fix from windows update, restart and omfg… BSOD!!! I haven’t seen one of those since ME! found a fix…Don’t install it, it was a recommended video driver that did it. Now I have to dig up my Xp install discs and transfer all my licenses over to the new machines, I feel so ripped off and let down.
I never installed windows vista. I always wait before installing a new OS. I waited like 2 years before installing XP. Something tells me I will never instal Vista.
Your reason is simple.
Your specifications arent high enough, and you have not disabled alot of features in Vista.
Vista is a good operating system, maximises the use of your core2duo or quad core processors and with the direct X 10 support its incredible.
By the sounds of it, if you bought a HP computer rather than custom built your system, you seem to know little about computers.
Disable the notifications, disable the visual effects, overclock your components.
Theres only one thing I could agree with you on, Vista recommended settings are way too low, you really will need 2GB of Ram and a core2duo processor to run it efficiently, that I agree with. But the operating system is amazing.
I’ll throw in my $.02 here: Where I work as a reference and systems librarian in a university library setting, I had a student here while back that was having a problem with his laptop. When I saw he had Vista, I thought “oh, lovely!”. He was having a problem accessing our wireless network, and I couldn’t figure it out either, so I suggested a reboot.
I kid you not, it took TEN MINUTES from the time I gave it the shutdown & reboot command to the time the Vista desktop reappeared. Given how he couldn’t connect plus how long it took to reboot, there is NO WAY I will EVER recommend Vista to anyone. Vista SUCKS!!!!!!!
Therefore, it’s time for anyone who is a major computer user to think about jumping ship and looking at Linux. I’ve been running Linux on my computer at home for almost three years now, currently running PCLinuxOS 2007 and I LOVE IT!
In fact, three months ago, I got my father-in-law converted to Linux (PCLinuxOS 2007, to be exact, same distro I currently have at home) after some problems with his other computer, and he loves it, too. Not to mention, he’s VERY computer-illiterate, and if my computer-illiterate father-in-law can use Linux, anyone can — no joke.
Besides, one of these days, Micro$haft will completely discontinue Windows XP like they’ve been threatening to do ever since Vista came out. After that, your only choice if you want Windows will be Vista, so now would be a good time to start looking at the alternatives.
After 2 month of stressing with Vista, I downgraded to XP Pro. And WOW WOW WOW! I finally got my PC back.
I am having nightmares from Vista. It crashes, blue screen, takes half an hour or more to restart. And sometimes 15 minuts or more to start it. And other problems. What a horrible OS. What a waste!
Vista really sucks! I purchased a new Dell notebook with dual core cpu and 2GB ram, and it was so slow it was virtually unusable. I complained to Dell and they logged on remotely and disabled some programs on start up. Now it is only about 5 time as slow as XP, and I had to buy a new webcam, and upgrade MYOB. It hangs intermittemtly and keeps getting the blue screen of death. It was the worst decision I’ve even made to get Vista. There should be a worldwide class action against Microsoft to stop them selling crap and compensate the victims of Vista.
I hate Vista with every atom in my body. I’m a gamer, and Vista sucks for gaming.
1.) freezes during WoW
2.) Graphic glitches during TF2
I have to agree!
The saddest thing is that for some of us there’s no choice. All computer vendors “recommend” Vista and install the non-downgradable OEM versions on the computers. Microsoft’s aggresive marketing, poor coding and devious licensing terms has pushed me over the edge this time.
Join my petition at http://www.windows-vista-sucks.com
And help me spread the word!
Cheers.
I agree with the class-action lawsuit idea. My Vista will no longer install any updates, indexing and searching seem to be completely broken, I get 3 minute hangs when nothing seems to be happening, there are still no drivers for some of my hardware, and I have been working for days with Microsoft Support who have offered no solutions that work. We have been sold a defective product. Who knows a lawyer who will take this on? Sign me up!
Is this the dawn of a new era? Maybe an era where Microsoft no longer has the world by the balls with its mostly crappy software?
I would be really overjoyed if I ever saw Microsoft taking the back seat. And if you compare, say MacOSX Leopard with Vista… ooops… sorry all you Mac folks, no offense meant by trying to compare them.
MacOSX kicks ass big time! I am not a big Mac fan, but after seeing Leopard I was truly amazed, and I wouldn’t find it hard to believe if I saw more and more people switching to Mac from PC’s…
Vista, on the other hand, is the worst ever!! Imagine an OS (OS? what a joke!), which doesn’t even handle it’s interface well… yes, expect corrupted windows, a task bar were selecting a running app actually opens the one to its left…
As a UNIX-flavored-OS lover, I would definitely go for Ubuntu, Mandriva or PCLinuxOS… actually… I am, after typing this… I hate Vista!!
So… for me, it’s:
Windows Vista… with the look, feel and quality you’ve come to expect from China!
These are either legitimate people having problems, or linux and mac junkies trying to spread thier own version of “FUD”. I use GNU/Linux on my laptop and *gasp* VISTA on my desktop without any problems. It performs just AS FAST as my old XP installation. No problems setting it up, save for a minor driver issue with the MIDI interface (I’m a musician/producer), in which I had to use a workaround from a site. But other than that its fine. I love the search function where all I have to do now is type the first few letters of an app into the start menu and it launches the correct one for me. Also, I ran disk defrag AND a virus scan at the same time, and guess what? You may as well go out for lunch when doing these on XP. Vista’s scheduler knows that you still want to use the PC for other things while this is going on, and I believe Vista has a better understanding of desktop process scheduling. Firefox, FL studio, and ACID Pro never experienced any hiccups while these background processes where going on.
I smell bullsh*t in some of these posts as well. Take the time to run the Vista Upgrade Advisor, make sure you have all updated drivers and that your PC can handle it smoothly, but mainly, use whatever OS you feel comfortable with. Don’t knock everyone else’s OS unless you are sure your symptoms are common across many, many computers.
What Vista fans may be missing is it is not my job to Upgrade, Workaround, fix, etc. This stuff should work as advertised to the extent it is not in the way. If I bought a car that worked the way Vista works it would qualify for a lemon law RMA in most states. I am buying a Dell with XP since it is cheaper than continuing trying to fix, workaround, update, upgrade, find drivers, etc for my Vista PC. I can not afford to work on this cr.ap any longer. For anyone who cares I have been working on PCs for 20+ years and XP was not near this bad when it came out and i do not like Linux or Macs, Vista S.cks, get out of denial.
My client returned his new Hp Pavillion Laptop to me to be downgraded to XP Pro. He complained about the how Vista took longer time to process some stuffs and its quite tedious to work with. But lets faced it , in a year time there will be huge size memory being produce out there, 10-20 gigs of ram maybe. By that time we will be used to vista and vista will be faster and better. I hope. But right now it took me a long time to find some things like network status etc, ut never mind, ill get used to it
Apparently you all have missed my point. If you don’t like it, DON’T use it. Simple. Bam. End of story. No more bitching required.
Google: Results 1 - 10 of about 368,000 for “vista sucks”. Maybe they’re all Linux/Mac heads? Doubt it. 368,000 say Vista Sucks! There’s your end-of-story. You’re wrong, Daniel. More bitching is required. As long as MS is profiting from it, as long as users are suffering, BITCH YOUR FREAKIN’ HEADS OFF. Will billg hear your screams? Fat chance. He’s too busy being a philanthropist with the money he stole from you.
I just started using it…. came preinstalled withcomputer and I think it is HORRIBLE… Incredibly unstable I can’t download anything some of my programs just will not work. I am hoping I will be able to go back to XP
I just bought a laptop with Vista Home Premium installed. Not only does it have all of the expected problems (slow, resource hungry, long boot time, etc…) but it also will not see any of my windows xp network shares and will not find either of my NAS devices. When looking into the issue basically Microsoft says that Vista won’t see any devices that are not “Vista compliant” and have a Vista certification. That is fine for a device you purchase today but how about the millions of legacy devices that worked fine with XP, Linux, and Mac? After I decided to install XP on the new laptop, which will require the purchase of a new license, I find out that the laptop mfg has no intention to release xp drivers for this model because it was designed to be Vista Compatible.
Also, I have noticed that since Vista was released my XP machines have started acting a little strange. After installing IE7 I started experiencing software hangs and crashing on some older apps that have nothing to do with IE. It seems like Vista is acting like a virus and infecting other healthy parts of Microsofts product line.
Have been using Ubuntu recently, seems to be getting to the point where it would make a good replacement OS. Realistically, still has some issues but all things considered I will go with Ubuntu long before I will settle for Vista!
Own a small computer business, and recently purchased a SONY Vaio VGN-AR520E (vista), since I have always liked SONY and the notebooks that my clients have purchased during the past four years are all running well, really well with XP. So well in fact that those Old VAIO’s with ½ the memory, Pentium 4 ht, tiny hard drives and crappy video cards by today’s standards, compared with my VGN-AR520E, run TWO to THREE times as fast and are much more responsive.
Have been relentlessly calling SONY support, and their customer relations team, they are blindsided and sticking with the “Virus” vista. Am requesting a refund according to the LICENSING TERMS IN THE VAIO SETUP SCREEN and they are not co-operating, so it is time to file suit, claim with ATTORNEY GENERAL OF NEW YORK. Have been promised XP drivers and an XP recovery disk for this model from SONY Tech support for months now, enough is enough.
SONY, you made my shit list. No more endorsements for SONY.
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Okay… Daniel… Microsoft makes certain promises with selling a certain product, vista for example.
You buy the product, vista in this case, believing that it runns fast, experiances no problems with basic (!!!) software and, generally speaking, tryes to REDUCE the ammount of possible errors, rather than allowing veen more to happen, compared to XP for example, or even 98 for that matter.
Look, people buy the OS, not knowing th
at it will not satisfy their needs, or their basic expectations for an OP, such as the ability to run smoothly for example, or beeing compatible with new hardware, as well as older hardware, after all, the customer is buying a BRAND NEW operating systhem that many people have big expectations in, and microsoft didn’t exactly point out that theese expectations maaaay just be a little bit to high.
I have had my Vista-experiance.
Many people around me call me when they are encountering problems with their PC or MAC.
I would not say that I am a specialist, but I know my way around alright.
Now lately, I have been encountering many…MANY…problems with Vista, the first encounter was a mere nightmare, a friend of mine complained that his brand new Laptop (I am not a big fan of the brand because thy tend to put too much junk on it - I appologise but i have forgotten the name of the brand, I will add a comment later when I remember) did not really run…at all.
So I - somehow- got the PC to boot up and…well… after a quarter of an hour or so I could start deleting useless software, until the PC was at a level that it could handle - just.
Anyway, It takes me longer to clean a brand new vista Laptop than it takes me to reinstall and set up XP after having formated my hard drive.
I have “revisited” that PC many times now to fix problems, and I just can’t semm to find my way around, and mind you, I know how to operate 98, XP, any sort of Macintosh and Linux to some extend.
But I just can’t find my way around using vista.
Software, that runns smoothly on XP crashes every 5 minutes on vista, OR doesn’t run in thefirst place.
I can only recommend using XP or any sort of alternative OS, because Windows Vista, at the moment, is not worth a cent of its price.
Bitching about it might not change the operating systhem, but at least it dends out a warning to other users and maybe even to microsoft.
I mean, no company can be THAT ignorant toward its customers…right?…RIGHT?
I hope there aren’t to many mistakes in my text, english is not my fist language… I appologisefor any spelling or gramma mistake, or for wrong expressions.
Cheers!
Ben
We should have a “Vista Sucks” party!!!
Vista is poop so far, I agree with a statement earlier: “Here’s a challenge for Microsoft, why not design a smaller, simpler OS that runs faster? Or designing an OS that boots in 5 seconds or less?” Who needs these fancy looking graphics and supposed shortcuts if they don’t work as advertised. I tested on Core 2 Duo w/ 4g ram. SLUG!, my 2k box PIII w/256m runs circles around it. Not to mention the key word…STABLE. I knew this was coming after IE7 took out like 1/2 of my office. It’s just very sad that this company can put out this garbage without beta testing the crap out of it. (which I got the beta version sent to me from development, and decided not to waste my fastest machine on testing some ‘latest/greatest’ OS.) My Sh!t works fine with 2k and XP..I think I’ll stick with them for as long as I can.
Sorry, didn’t mean to use the word ’stable’ when talking about windows…I take that back..run a *nix box if you want that. =)
VISTA works fine for me thank you very much….
T_T
vista sucks. ive used it sucks. other people i know says it sucks. hell we all switched back to xp. dont buy vista it sucks viva la xp llol
I agree that this OS sucks. I have been running it for 2 weeks on my brand new Dell inspiron 2.4 ghz 3 GB ram and it just runs sooooooo slow, 15 freakin seconds to open a quicktime file!!! did anyone say shotdown time?? I installed RC1 hopeing for improvement, don´t think for a sec that tis will speed up things! It is a bit more stable ill give them that. I don´t get as many BSOD as before RC1.
I got Ubuntu GG 7.10 running in dual boot on this notebook and it is an absolut dream compared.
and that is a DUAL CORE 2.4 ghz 3 gb ram , not a single core.
Vista is like a virus you pay for. And you have to buy it from an organization that operates like Capone’s Chicago mob, with the government’s blessing.
Microsoft needs to be broken up into tiny little pieces so they can’t continue to hold the American public hostage. They steamroll any attempt at competition, legal, or otherwise, and get away with it. These guys must have a lot of government officials in their $$ pocket! It’s like dealing with very organized crime. You buy a PC, and if it’s not an expensive Apple, you get with no choice, or alternatives, an operating system from Microsoft. Before you can do anything with it, you have to agree to Microsoft’s terms, and conditions written by a team of lawyers with a budget the size of a small country. Not being a lawyer myself, near as I can figure out, it says that you get what you get, and it’s not guaranteed to do anything, and you have no legal right to expect it to. Furthermore, if you actually do find a way to get it to work, you can’t copy it, or do anything else they don’t want you to do with it. Despite their denials, there is also concern that they embed code into their programs that makes it possible for them to spy on their customers. I guess we’re just lucky that Microsoft doesn’t make parachutes, life rafts, air bags, or God forbid, toilet paper.
I am not, by any means a computer expert, but I have owned and operated various PCs since the days of the Amiga, Apple, and storing data on floppy disks. I spent many frustrating late nights just getting them to do simple tasks like printing. At one point, I ordered the parts, and built a 486 computer from scratch. I just thought that we were now at an age where owning a computer shouldn’t be an adventure- until I recently bought a new Gateway computer loaded with Vista Home Premium. Again, there I was, spending many frustrating late nights just trying to get it to do simple tasks like printing. We have 3 other computers, so I had alternatives, and it wasn’t my number one priority, but it took weeks before I was able to use it for anything other than email, and I still have two Epson printers that work with everything else but the Gateway.
Don’t just say Microsoft(R)(TM) Windows(R)(C) Vista(R) suck, dump it for Canonical.ltd Ubuntu 7.10!
running dual 2.7ghz 2gb ram 400gb HDD and a Geforce8600gt512… no issues what so ever.
Great plug and play, look and new features. If you can’t afford a decent vista computer, stick with XP
I installed Vista and the shock made me go back to XP, if Vista was a live entity than I could violently kill it. Rip it’s head off, tear out the guts and grind it to pieces, no mercy at all.
I agree with most. Vista sucks. I got it on a new machines that should be very fast. It’s not.
Agreed. I had issues with Vista back when I had it. I switched over to Linux and it’s way better. Hell, to be honest with you, I can find more compatible drivers for Linux than Vista, even though Linux isn’t a Microsoft-made product. Amazing, eh? Just goes to show you how compatible Vista is.
Don’t forget Microsoft has saved us from
what would have been the computing world of babble.
In the beginning there were many upstart proprietorship orientated computer manufacturers(Commodore, Atari, Texas instrument)
Microsoft’s worst products were windows 3.0 and dos 4.0 . Both were flawed for many reasons, but evovled into future versions that eventually matched up with the hardware and user envirenmont needed(such as the internet).
I suggest to seperate Vista bashing(from all I read is probally justified) with M$ bashing. MS is what it is,
and because it has a solid bussiness model and more money than god, will still be around after other oses have shot there bolt.
Be patient, the future is broght
PC supporter (windows)…
HATE Vista hate hate hate I’m running a Dell (we usually built our own, but the price was a steal) I STATED I WANTED XP but they sent preloaded w/Vista. Gave it a chance–HATE IT. Slow slow slow, crashes, I’m going back to XP until Adobe suite of products can handle Linux. Just terrible. I have 4M ram and dual cor AMD on this thing–there’s no reason it should be such a DOG.
Vista? Are you kidding? I just upgraded from XP to take advantage of the 4gig ram that I have installed, and it’s now been 3 weeks and I still have no sound. Driver installations are near impossible, and if you are stupid enough, like I was to actually use the manufacturers install disk AND it didn’t install a Vista driver, GOOD LUCK!
I did that with my new laptop, and not only can I not connect to an EPSON printer, but the original drivers are apparently STUCK in the laptop because the NEW VISTA drivers won’t complete installation.
Vista is BULLSHIT. XP SP2 rocked compared to it.
The constant requests to approve software installs, and certified drivers is making assumption that everyone on a PC is NOOB!
WTF?
This is like giving a hardcore XBOX gamer a WII!!!
GTFOOH with this POS!
OH and BTW: I AM, RIGHT NOW, IN THE PROCESS OF REMOVING VISTA AND RE-INSTALLING XP PRO. I don’t care if I now have to sit online for 4 hours and get all the updates done again.
VISTA IS CRAP.
I cannot believe that they actually rolled this out.
Who thought of this? Does MS realize that people cannot get their laptops operating correctly?
Are we to call on Tech Support in incur $$ to simply get this thing running?
Ridiculous. Simply ridiculous.
VI$TA VI$TA VI$TA VI$TA
The TCP stack issues serves as the best reason to avoid Vista. It was working lovely on my Mac until software updates. Suddenly, DHCP no longer works. I’ve scoured the internet for 8 hours today, trying to find a fix (that works…) I feel that I’ve completely mastered the netshell. I’ve tried every possible fix, short of teabagging the laptop with my testicles or loading XP. (I wish OS X could play my games… I’d go back in a heartbeat.)
I started thinking it was my hardware. I’m happy to say that I’m posting this from Ubuntu 7.10 running on the same machine. Unfortunately, I can’t get a refund for Vista.
Vista rocks…thanx to it I am making lots of money upgrading brand new Vista machines with XP PRO SP2. This is the best thing ever for small computer repair shops.
Guys, don’t be naive, saying never was infected using windows 10 years.
You ARE infected everytime you use windows automatically, I mean 50 million lines of code(come on), unless you run your anti-virus, antispy, antirootkits, weekly, you are already infected with it, so what’s the point of antimalware??
Install something like outpost to block active content on webpages too.(I could not install It with vista..)
I did an experiment:
First I cleaned my xp with antimalware then I dropped my outpost antiwebcontent shield for a week(use my computer only for webbrowsing), after a week I did a full malware scan and found lots of malware..
VISTA SUCKS… i purchassed an hp, with vista preloaded. It was a choice between ps3 or a new powerfull comp that can play Gears of War for the pc. since i needed a new computer anyways i went with the hp. I FUCKING HATE MYSELF. i spend 4 days trying to get the fuckin thing to work. in the end i ended up with a 50 dollar coaster. When i tried to contact the microsoft team, they want my credit card number first so they can charge me for technical support (i think its like 45 bucks per call) are they fuckin mad? as soon as i figure out how to get all the drivers for my new comp for xp, vista is gone. DO NOT BUY VISTA, STAY WITH XP.
OMG… whats wrong with you people?! Windows has 90% of the market, so who else are hackers going to target?! And more, you say that Vista is so slow compared to XP, well windows 95 is ALOT faster than XP, why aren’t you running windows 95?? Lastly, this is new software!! It is supposed to have compatibility issues! Well, you might say that MACs don’t have alot of these issues, and that is because nearly all software/hardware for MACs are BUILT by APPLE-obviously they’d be compatible!!
“well windows 95 is ALOT faster than XP”
No it isn’t. XP is much more optimized and less buggy than 95. Also, there are many other reasons to use XP over 95, such as the eradication of limits in HD file size, and the compatibility with just about every soft/hardware out there.
Bought a new Gateway laptop for my girl for X-mas. I wanted to have it prepped with her software and settings before I gave it to her and it was my first experience with Vista. What Nazi is in charge at Microsoft that was able to get this thing passed? I’m a musician/producer and I run extensive plug-ins on my home-built system (AMD 6000+, 2 GB PC 800 RAM, Audigy Platinum 4, all SATA 3 GB/s drives, XP64 Professional). I’ve never encountered such a degradation in quality, speed, or ease of use with any product that was supposedly enhanced. We are not a small group of people experiencing a major psychotic break. We are not a group of MAC or Linux-fans (as I saw some clown write earlier) seeking to trash an OS for fun. I wouldn’t take this time out of my busy schedule to write this if it were not important for me to say to others before they make a similar mistake. We are a LARGE group of dissatisfied customers that will likely never purchase a Microsoft product again. Try Ubuntu; I’m in the process of downloading it as I type this and I’m willing to bet it’s worth the time to get-to-know. In other words, don’t assume it’s easy to “upgrade” to Vista because it’s a Microsoft product and you know Windows. Vista is NOT Windows by any means. It’s someone’s cruel attempt to sell you dookie in a box with a name on it that you think you can trust. Just remember this: Bill Gates stole everything he sells us and this is true. Why do you trust him? Or Steve Jobs for that matter, he stole everything from the mouse to the GUI and sold it under his name stolen from FRIENDS!!!
1. You didn’t take the time to research if Vista was going to run on your system.
2. You are too lazy or don’t have the patience to troubleshoot driver problems or any other problem you may have.
3. You expect a brand new OS to “just work”, when M$ couldn’t possibly test it on every single configuration of PC and hardware out there, even if they beta tested for years.
And now you want to install Ubuntu, having never installed it before. Obviously you have never had to deal with hardware acceleration for ATI cards or finding wireless drivers for your obscure network card or recompiling the kernel source to get your webcam to work, etc. etc. etc.
Linux does NOT “just work”. If you are still intent on going this route, the learning curve will NOT be easy.
Not bashing linux, as I have used it since Redhat 6. I am just warning you that some people on here may not have the patience for it and expect to much of it as far as user-friendliness.
I was given a Dell Inspiron 1501 which came with Windows Vista. It was painfully slow and frustrating to use. (Extreme understatement.)
I replaced Vista with Ubuntu and now I have a machine that works well and fast.
I do agree with the previous poster that you have to do your research, but Ubuntu runs much better than Vista does.
If you do install Ubuntu on a wireless machine, make sure that you have the ethernet connection plugged in, just in case you have to download the proprietary wireless drivers.
I have Ubuntu installed on a test machine and have been experimenting with it. The stability is great and I have had no problems with it except with the web browser. I installed firefox and for some reason can’t access certain websites. I also have XP running on the same network with no problems accessing these websites. I have done everything I can think of to resolve the problem, but don’t really know enough about Ubuntu to troubleshoot it.
Have any of you experienced this problem? I really want to migrate completely to Ubuntu but can’t b/c of the web browsing issue.
Thanks, in advance and thanks for the great comments on this article!
only 20 reasons vista sucks? i could come up wit 200!!
..neighbour just bought a new Dell 3GB computer with Vista Home Pr.
The very first day it had the stupidest error message I’ve seen, paraphrased:
Windows Explorer has an unexplained error do you wish to shut down Windows?
Then double click on a normal jpg file. Windows viewer comes on, but try to print with it. Wants to print to some Windows X writer, and doesn’t recognize the install HP printer. So try to add it (again) says COPY 1, ok, but then gets a system error.
Installed Irfan and it works like a charm.
Oh, took 3 minutes to shut down.
Oh, for the poster about Microsoft selling an OS that can boot up in less than 5 seconds - they did, it was called DOS…
I’m on Windows 2000 Pro until it ceases to function. Period.
My MacBook Pro is really fast
As somebody in the field, I can sympathize with the author of this article. Someday when the dominant operating system manufacturer releases a “New” and “Improved” operating system, it will be “Improved” I.E. WORK BETTER THAN WHAT THEY ALREADY SELL. IMHO, if a company is going to release an OS that can only use drivers certified by that company, then that company should make DAMN SURE that they’ve certified the hell out of EVERYTHING THAT PEOPLE MAY ALREADY OWN. Oh and I’ve run into this… put ram into computer, computer says “Hardware change, reactivate license” WTF IS THAT??! It’s just ram, I didn’t replace a motherboard… spend next 4 hours of life with people that don’t speak English. The philosophy behind vista must have been, “lets see how full we can get these resources, people like crap, let’s see how much crap we can cram into this thing” 2 Gigs of Ram, Core 2 duo, 512 video, ARE YOU KIDDING ME, why isn’t this thing flying. It’s like having a ferrari and then trying to pull a yacht. It’s one thing to put out a new OS, but it’s another for manufacturers to Deny drivers to people who want to “upgrade” to XP, WTF is that? I’m just glad that I’ve only pirated everything in my inventory that has anything to do with Micro$oft, I feel for the poor bastards that have actually paid hard earned money for this OS I wouldn’t use to wipe my ass.
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I am a gnu-Linux (fedora)user with some disposable cash and thought I would try vista so I bought two systems, one that is like my personal laptop and one that is like the desktop I let my room-mates use. I didn’t have the BSOD problem that others have had but I did find that it used over twice the RAM ( over 3x on the ultimate edition) than my fedora systems did even with basic (the desktop)and booted about 50%-75% slower on both systems (even with dealing with grub on my fedora boxes) and shutdowns took longer. It also was a pain that MS has not updated their file system to the point that you don’t have to defragment it and you have to hack the os to get full admin rights (wasn’t that hard if you are a nerd like me but still a pain). I did have the driver problems that others have had though. My old TV card I keep plugged into the desktop would not work with vista and it didn’t like to work with (drops all the time) the usb hard drive I have on the DT (desk top). I also found that my DT had problems with media files and DVDs (just install vlc) which I would expect an os I pay for to play.
In close while I didn’t have the same complaints as everyone else I still have my own.
For clarification I run at 182mib for fedora on my desktop and 436mib (average).
Just re-installed XP after a month of using the WORST operating system, EVER…i swear Windows ME is elite when compared to this shit…here are some “features” of windows vista=)
1)The possibility of watching a full tv show when copying files larger than several gigabytes
2)The removal of EVERYTHING that was not present at your selected restore point, yes, i actually lost all my crap because i chose to do a restore to REVERSE SETTINGS, not to reverse the existence of programs i spent hours downloading (i guess i should’ve known vista’s sys restore would be worse than XP’s which NEVER deleted my files
2.5)The fact that system restore does not actually succeed at restoring your computer, rendering it almost useless
3)The extensively long boot time, and the even LONGER restart of the machine (for me, 10 mins = restart with updates, 5 mins without, and 5 to shutdown)…XP? maybe 2 minutes max, for any of those things? even less for shutdown
4)The amazing, so highjly acclaimed “Areo”…I actually became sick of this clever tool microsoft implemented, when I think about it, I notice that, causing a window to slide into place from the taskbar, and to have the items “fade in”, is a VERY clever way of masking the actual sluggish pace at which the folder and it’s contents are being loaded
5)then there’s the idea of truly moving the windows os closer to the mac, let’s make it so no programs are compatible, yay, except of course, for the newest, most expensive versions, but everyone’s got 40 billion dollars like bill, so who gives
6)the confusing “permissions, and ownership” of folders…i mean, i see “permissions, advanced permissions, extended permissions, sharing, security” on vista, all i see on XP is “sharing” with a simple option of password protection or not
7)then there’s of course microsoft office 2007 vs 2003, supposedly totally re-arranging and removing any and all buttons that were once visibly present in 2003 and older versions of this previously useless software, supposedly, completely changing this was a VERY effective way of making the program “much simpler to use” and definitely worth that extra $250
8)Hm, then there’s the control panel, with so many 100’s of extra options, I don’t understand the word “easy” anymore, when i look at XP, there’s like 10″
9)Microsoft: BUY VISTA, it has hotpatching! it doesn’t need to be restarted for updates! yet all i got was 10 minute restarts EVERY TIME I UPDATED A WINDOWS OR NOT PROGRAM
10)Also, to make it even easier, lets changed where all the folders have been located for the past 13 years, since windows 95, lets screw documents and settings, and screw putting everything in the “My Documents” folder, lets change it to hm…Users? and then say…split everything up into diff folders so its impossible to get to without less than 4 clicks
11)HMMMMMMMM, YES, remove more common features of windows, like the MENU BAR from explorer, because this is “EASIER” supposedly…of course, how silly of the millions of people who don’t know how to use their computers anymore, hey, while were at it, lets totally take away the useful options in the context menus, like u know, that USELESS stuff like “Open with”, cuz vista just knows what we want our things to open with
12)Vista DOES have drivers for some devices, yes, that is true, and for these few devices it can function with, it does so of course, at half the spped XP did
13)Another great feature coming up! RAM! Vista uses RAM, thats all I’ve ever heard, yet when installed, vista actually refused to use my ram, consuming a mere 40% with all programs open, yet a page file size of several gigabytes…it has always been my understanding that a page file is a BACKUP incase there isn’t enough RAM, ohwell, its easier i guess right
14)Let’s make Vista even more difficult to run on average computers, lets add a sidebar, just cuz we wanna be like Mac’s, let’s make it use just as much resources as the rest of the system, let’s make it a deafult feature, it’s easy for people to use, seeing as they’ve never used one before
15)Uh-oh! Microsoft Windows Vista has detected suspicious activity occuring from a mysterious product called Windows Live Messenger, which is attempting to install into the system, let’s use the handy UAC, and block this dangerous attempt, making it far slower than smart XP, which allows its OWN programs through
16)Let’s say we made the firewall way better, when really its no different and no1 uses it anyway, everyone has an antivirus product with a firewall built in as it is
17)You know another of my favourite features, WINDOWS DVD MAKER, revolutionary technology that takes 2 HOURS to burn a DVD using the exact same burner XP used to run on for me, and it took less than half an hour
18)Let’s say good-bye to USB 2.0, who cares if the computer has it? Vista can’t transfer files to save it’s life, it crashes half the time and doesn’t even complete the copy or cut, I suggest copy because of the frequent crashes, which could result in loss of data if it’d been cut, although then you need to delete the copy, which takes forever too, and sometimes that fails, so your stuck with a huge ass amount of files, and no way to remove them
19)But remember, Microsoft knows Vista is slow as hell, they made sure to offer a version that runs ALMOST half as fast as XP, Home Basic, hm, yeah, just about the shittiest version of Vista possible, it actually has less features than XP, and is still slower, so how is it even logical to make the switch?
20)Lastly, you gotta love how vista somehow manages to consume gigabytes of leftover space from its 20gb installation on a daily basis, the reasons clearly unknown, as I had 90 free after install, on a 120 gb hd, I now have less than 50, with no additional files or folders or programs added, sorry, should say USED to have 50, now with XP back running this 120GB Hard Drive, I have ooooh, what? 100GB?
Btw, just for those who want to dispute my arguments by saying I have a piece of crap computer, here’s my specs
AMD Athlon 64 3,000+
1.50GB RAM
120GB Hard Drive (OS), 80GB Hard Drive (Storage)
and dont give me shit bout my ram, vista didnt even use all of it and was still slow
“running dual 2.7ghz 2gb ram 400gb HDD and a Geforce8600gt512… no issues what so ever.
Great plug and play, look and new features. If you can’t afford a decent vista computer, stick with XP”
thats not a “decent” computer, that’s a supercomputer which most people cannot afford
Bought a brand new computer with Vista and just had it changed to XP. How embarrassing is it to put a product like this on the market ? It’s called pride Bill; much different than profit. I guess nobody ever taught Gates if something is worth doing it’s worth doing right.
Gawd Vista is a total waste of time. The people that waited in line and dropped 300.00 for the early release must feel like Gates really put the wood to them.
Okay, I may agree that Vista does have some suckie qualities, but you don’t have to overexagerate them. Come on: “no ‘open with’ button when you right click” I think we all know thats not true. It just recently started screwing up on me. And it does make me mad.
me again=), thought id give everyone an update on how my UPGRADE went, from Windows Vista Home Premium to Windows XP Home Edition. Very nicely, with Vista resisiting XP quite a bit. XP had to format the drive Vista had laid it’s bloated self on 2-3 times befote the OS was fully gone. anyway, i’ve got more installed than i did when i upgrade from vista to xp last night, and whilst my harddrive meter read 45 GB of 120 last night, it now reads 99 of 120, with MORE apps than before installed on here. ive got full updates, fully secured my XP with service pack 2, plus all additional updates since then, (about 100), and it is running smoothly. I also have installed Norton Internet Security 2008, which is MORE security than Vista could provide for me at all. ALL my old programs r installed, reboots and booting up, and shutting down times have ALL decreased DRAMATICALLY, folders flick open instantly, I’ve got my upgraded version of Microsoft Office 2003 from Microsoft Office 2007, with everything just where its SUPPOSED to be, even though microsoft says this way is MUCH more difficult to understand. Also, I’ve got my second drive in, giving me a total of 120 GB + 80, leaving me with 200GB total, sure, not much by today’s standards, but enough for my standards. Alrdy got CS on here, graphics r NO different than direct x10 shit, if not marginally, annnnd, yeah, lol, FUCK VISTA FUCK IT IN THE ASS, sorry…but i swear, Windows Vista is the next Windows ME, ME did NOT overcome Windows 98, and Windows Vista will NOT overcome XP, Microsoft will have to admit it made the same mistake a second time around, hopefully Windows Vienna, or Windows 7, will come soon, and that will be the worthy OS capable of succeeding over XP where Vista has failed after over a year, and holds less than half the amount XP continues to retain a firm grip on.
WOW. I built my own machine. Intel Core 2 Duo 2.33, 4 gigs DDR2 RAM 500 GIG sata2 drive and Nvidia Geforce 8800 GTS SSC Edition 640MB DDR3 RAM.
I run VISTA ULTIMATE in 64bit mode clean install no preloaded software and it runs with no issues, restarts take less then 30 secs. All games including Crysis run at over the top settings.
The problem is you guys are running Vista Home on PC built by Dell and HP loaded with junk software and running at 32bit.
I feel that Vista is an OS built for tommorows PC. Vista is also meant to run in the 64 bit enviroment does much better then in the older 32 bit systems of today. ALso can be tuned to run faster then XP. When I built my machine and considered the OS I was going to install I decided I did not want on OS that had been out for the past 8 years! Vista does have its problems so far with me I have been able to overcome minor issues with driver downloads from manufactureres websites and purchasing Vista ready parts.
Good Luck.
“WOW. I built my own machine. Intel Core 2 Duo 2.33, 4 gigs DDR2 RAM 500 GIG sata2 drive and Nvidia Geforce 8800 GTS SSC Edition 640MB DDR3 RAM.
I run VISTA ULTIMATE in 64bit mode clean install no preloaded software and it runs with no issues, restarts take less then 30 secs. All games including Crysis run at over the top settings.”
Yeah, okay, buddy. I could build a machine for half of what you paid that would boot faster and run any game you name BETTER by using XP as my operating system. And if these corporate pigs would open up the NVidia card specs, I’d be able to make that claim for my Linux box even moreso. You got suckered out of hundreds of dollars because you didn’t do any research whatsoever as to how things really are. You threw so much money at the issue, in components, that you managed to overcome a FEW of the complaints we have about Vista. However, if you actually USED your computer, you wouldn’t be so satisfied.
I feel as if open source supporters managed to infiltrate Microsoft a few years ago and forced it to release a terrible OS in order to destroy the company’s image. This is WORSE than Windows ME. Windows ME was garbage but at least it didn’t have all of the DRM nonsense to go with it. I feel as if a corporate lobbyist is controlling my girlfriend’s computer whenever I try to watch a movie on her laptop with her. Hey, whatever though, Microsoft. You made me win again. Instead of watching a movie, it’s that much easier to convince my girlfriend to screw around with me.
“Hey, your laptop has a crappy OS. Let’s screw.”
Vista is such a waste of money. don’t download any updates cause u r highly likely to get a compatibility issue that dystroys the os and therefore computers functionality. You have been warned!!!
PS I want my money back mo fo’s
Just got VISTA on a new Dell. I do not like it at all. Explorer has stopped working every other time I have used it. Oh microsoft, why are you not being responsible to your customers? How much productive time have you wasted….
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I have Vista….couple issues on install - then completely stable and nice. For those who say “I would buy an Apple” - yeah….spend 3 times as much for the same performance and functionality - you’d be the moron generation…now if they were close in cost (being they are running on the same hardware) - that might be a different story…Apple is laugh (at you) all the way to the bank
hahah…what a great thread…”Open your mind and don’t think you must be one of those squeaky (minority) wheels out there.” lol….how many responses does this mail have?…thats a lot of wheels lame ass.
Ok, the common response to Vista being shit (which it is) is “oooo you didn’t do your research” or “ooo you know nothing about computers”…damn ,what a bunch of idiots. I bought a new Vaio SZ5XWN costing well over 1000GBP?…why? well cause i already had a vaio that i’d ran perfectly happy for 4 years with yes, you guessed it XP. Which machine am i using more now….i dont need to say it. The only reason i havn’t ‘downgraded/upgraded’ to XP Pro on my new Vista machine is that i’m a contractor and in the middle of a time sensitive project….AS SOON AS thats done, i wont hesitate….what f***s me off is not so much the sad protective comments of some dude who’s running 16CPU, 10GIG POWERSTATION and thinking Vista runs great its more the companies like Sony who blindly accept that Vista is now the ’standard’ My OLD VIAO RUNS QUICKER THAN MY NEW VAIO AND THERE’S MORE THAN 3YRS BETWEEN THEM…Surely the manufactures should test the machines and say “hey look, we’ve just created a great machine here, so tech savvy it supports time travel….only tw*t is, running under Vista, its a dog with 1 leg…..i hate to suggest it be does anyone think we should batch these out with XP”
Note: this post does not mention mac or ubuntu (ok maybe just once there) or whatever else people are suggesting to be the reasons behind vista bashing. I’ve given it now 3 months and i can honestly say it really does suck big time…
Vista is running pretty good after some tweaking on my old sempron 2600+ with 1 gig of PC2100. What bothers me most is how new PC’s have so much nonsense and services running on them, that 9 out of 10 times they run like total ass. This is not just Microsoft, but the PC makers fault too. All these company’s have their head’s so far up their ass they don’t realize that people don’t want to sit around waiting for backround tasks and setup procedures to finish before they can just start using the dam machine. Or they just don’t care. Probably both.
Been using MS products for the last twenty years. When Vista came out last year, I bought an HP Pavilion with Home Premium on it. Couldn’t tell you how it works, because I immediately wiped the hard drive and installed Ubuntu 6.04. I’m running 7.10 now, and it gets better with every release - it’s close, even though I still wouldn’t recommend Linux of any flavor to noobs.
Sure, MS has 90% of the home market now, but I’m figuring Vista will do for them what they did for IBM in the early ’90’s. Remember when THEY were the 800 pound gorilla?
“Lastly, this is new software!! It is supposed to have compatibility issues”
What a cop-out statement, if that’s the case why would so many people spend good money on something they knew was supposed to have compatibiltiy issues, not me! I would rather have my head knawed on by rabid beavers than use Vista.
We’ve been using Vista on some of the computers in out IT department to see what we’re going to have to deal with when we finally roll it out. We have it running on Dell GX270s with 512 RAM, but it’s a flipping miracle. They are sloooooooooooooooow, and has spurts of instability. My boss (who’s been using one of these PCs as his office computer) started boasting that he hasn’t has a BSOD on his computer yet, and then the PC blue screened.
All of my other encounters with Vista have been exponentially more frustrating. I’m sure that our experiences with Vista would be so much better if all of us could afford computers with quad core processors, four gigabytes of RAM, and an SLI setup (and video card drivers that actually work well), but that’s not the reality. This OS has put way more stress on hardware than XP did.
You are not supposed to get “open with” just by right clicking unless you hold in shift (which works with vista)… this just destroyed your credibility in my eyes.
I was never a fan of MS until XP, which i love XP. I tried longhorn in its beta but never gave it another shot because all i read about vista is that it sucks.
Sorry about all the people that are forced to use it
To Mandriva Dude,
By your handle, I assume you are a Mandriva Linux fan. I myself am a Linux hobbyist, but I have to say that the Windows line of Operating systems has been the best I have seen as far as backwards compatability. Just try running a linux program even with a minor version number change of the linux kernel without recompiling. Linux, honestly sucks eggs when it comes to compatibility among releases. Even when using the same kernel version, differences even among the various distributions will probabably not allow a binary program to run without a recompile, or installing specific packages meant for that distribution.
Take a binary-only package from linux 2.0 and run it successfully on 2.6, and then you have an argument. I can run the old DOS Doom 2 in XP as well as Vista no problems.
Vista sucks, but my laptop restart in 1 minute, 25 sec. and all background programs and antivirus are loaded within 2 minutes. HP Pavillion 9500 Vista Ultimate 64 bit, 4GB RAM.
And offcourse i have “open with” option in context menu by default. No problem. I think that was some kind of patch or what that Microsoft released and take care of this.
I hate Vista,We bought a new PC that had Vista already on it.We also bought a all in one printer that said Vista compatable.We can’t use it.Tried to hook it up and it wont so we had a computer repair man come and he couldn’t get it to work.Makes me mad 300 dollars for a damn printer and it wont work.Wal mart wont take it back either.BS
We purchased a top of the line Fujitsu laptop with the top of the line Visat OS. While it does run w/o problems the performance is laughable. The mere fact that Dell has “forced” Microsoft to continue to provide XP for new computer systems says it better than anything else.
Vista = Trusted Computing, therefore I formatted C:\
Vista is worse than Windows ME! Now that’s really awful!
I TOTALLY AGREE…VISTA IS A WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY
YEAH..LIKE I SCOURED AROUND FOR TWO WEEKS TRYIN TO FIND THE BEST LAPTOP MONEY CAN BUY…I FOUND IT..BLAH BLAH BLAH..OH VISTA???!!! GAVE IT A TRY…GOD./..THATS ONE HELLUVA MISTAKE I MADE BUYIN’ A PC WITH THIS CRAP OS..GODDAMN!!!!NOW I HAVE TO GO UPGRADE MY SYS TO THE BETTER XP PRO SP2…I REALLY SOMETIMES FEEL LIKE THROWIN THE LAPTOP OUT THE WINDOW BUT THEN AGAIN…..ITS BRAND NEW..STILL VISTA SUXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX!!!
Got my first HP desktop with VISTA — thought couldn’t be too bad right since it has released for a while. But NO!!! BSOD 20 times on the first NIGHT. Sent it back, got a replacement, used it for 10 days (not enjoyable though - hate the new explorer and slow but that’s a different story), the VISTA updated itself and restarted — didn’t boot — tried system repair, system restored… can even boot to Safe mode (WFT!). How the hell can i get my data back? Bought an external HD exclosure and opened the case, transfer the data…. I am going to store all my files externally and ghost that shit every other days cuz I KNOW it is crash again. The worst OS eveR! Even Bill Gates admitted it indirectly in the interview.
Correction: IT CANNOT EVEN BOOT TO SAFE MODE
Mapping anything to another computer is a joke. It sits there with no feedback whatsoever. Simply it is a lousy performing OS…form over substance.
I call Vista the “New Coke” of Operating Systems. Nuff said.
Ive been an IT pro for 10 Years, ive worked with Windows since 3.1/NT 4 and DOS I have also worked with Redhat, OS 10 and Freebs and other Linux ports but have never worked with such a crap OS as Vista. Win2k un serviced packed never caused me as many issues as ive found with vista. My own pc at home ran for 5 years with xp without a reinstall no blue screens my new home pc has blue screened about 5 times in the 2 weeks ive had it its terrible im hopeing SP1 will sort a lot of it but im not hopeful
I hate Vista, but what can I do? I’m not a “techy” ,but it just seems to really suck a$$!
You all phail, vista is much better than linux, mac osx and windows xp.
relax folks…it’s all part of the Grand Scheme. Just relax, bend over and say “Thank you Mr. Gates, may I have another?”
To the person who claimed Vista works fine on Dells — I’m having nothing but trouble with Vista on my Dell.
When my old XP PC died I thought it was finally time to buy a new one… a dual core with plenty of RAM. My initial contempt for Vista came when some 6-8 of my old software would not run… WS-FTP, Zone Alarm Pro, System Mechanic, Nero… just to mention a few. I found the new Explorer to be a file MISmanagent system. How MS could get rid of simple access to commands like move/copy is beyond belief. Moving files now is tedious because the target folder moves with mouseovers. The search function is braindead since it can’t even show keywords in context. Numerous programs stop responding… even the MSN browser/mail client. Some can’t even be shut down in task manager. CTRL-ALT-DELETE… a command introduced some 25 years ago is gone. Vista won’t shut down when told to. MS again leverages its virtual OS monopoly to put competitors on the defense. Vista search goes to MS Live. Vista is a beta release masquerading as a market ready release. Vista is a buggy piece if crap just like ME was. MS should be ashamed of itself… but it what does it care! It has the muscle to force ME down the throats of vendors and consumers.
Yes vista is a real piece of shit. When I think back to Windows ME, I did run Windows ME for 4 years without a whole lot of problems. To me Windows ME was a good little machine 800mhz celeron 64MB ram, it did everything I wanted it to do. Besides the daily reboot… Then later in 2004 I got a Windows XP wow great machine lots of new and improved features. So WTF is with this vista garbage its slow shit junk WINDOWS FISTER! Hard drive constant clatter tick tick and yes it will burn out/ wear out your hard drives iv been through TWO of them already Windows fucker totally rapes your machine. I have a junk PC? NO it has 2GB ddr2 and a AMD dual core. So I put XP on this machine and the hard drive is silent,its fast,stable, and it games a hell of alot better. There is no dought about it Windows fucker is a disaster…Windows ME was better so what does this tell you? Now that I have XP on my new PC you could not pay me to use vista. I gave vista a fair chance 11 months of use and 2 hard drives later NO WAY IN HELL WILL I EVER USE IT AGAIN. constant disk access for what? one seagate one western digital come on WTF! Dont waste your money on Fister if you need a new PC make sure you also get a XP disc.
XP does everything better then Vista thats a fact!
To eXtreme… When I first got my new PC I too worried about the excess disk chatter. After nine DAYS of it I finally shut researched it and suspected the indexing service. It was indexing everything… hundreds of file extensions. And it’s not as if this service provides any useful info. When we use a search engine we get to see our keywords in context. All Vista’s search engine does it point us to a file. Big deal. With XP I used a search program called FileHand that DID show keywords in the context of the target document. Of course FileHand doesn’t work with Vista.
One more infuriating is not scandalous side note. My new PC came with an Office 2007 trial. I had no use for it and I continued to use an old version of Word. When the trial ended, Office hijacked my Word file extension back to Office07 and would NOT let me manually switch it back. I had to uninstall the trial just to be able to use my old version of Word. This is just another example of Microsoft’s intolerable exploitation of their OS monopoly to force consumers to use other MS products and services. The Microsoft Empire MUST be broken up.
To ulTRAX yes nothing like turning on your computer getting past BIOS loading windows, and loading windows, and loading windows no light flickering on the base. Run PC doctor cd ………12 hours later still stuck on 3%? hard drive check still not complete. LMAO yep its toast! Then you have to call to reactivate your windows fucker WTF pirate? I payed for this? What a joke. Well Im happy now with my XP it might be old but it works great I think microsoft should have just improved XP more IMHO its microsofts best OS to date and I think that they know this because there support for XP wont end until ….what is it 2012/2014? I have no problem running it until then. I was so upset over fister I even used ubuntu linux its a nice OS but dont get me wrong I found it not so user friendly. Office 2007 ….Use open office… and you wont have to worry about a trial ending. The way things are going I think my next computer will be an apple. Iv never used a mac. But hey what can I say microsoft messed up big, times change things happen. Is “windows vienna sausage” going to be broken also? Just have to wait and find out.
CPU magazine stated that Vista is a total market failure. Never get a computer and put Vista on it, if you do, I proudly present you with the dunce cap of computer smarts! Bottom line: Vista is a p.o.s. operating system!!! I have no pitty for those who are stuck with it!
I built a new computer and tried Vista Basic, big mistake. Most of my software does not work with it, including brand new games i got for Xmas. My brother got Gears of War(made by microsoft) and had trouble loading it on his Vista Home pc. He needed to update DirectX for the game to run, and even then it still ran with glitches. I’m sorry, but when I turn on a computer, I expect it to work, the Windows 95,98 and ME years should be behind us. I’m not going to waste years for Vista to start to work like XP, especially when UBUNTU and LEOPARD work so well. I down graded back to XP Pro. Dell now offers pc’s with Vista or XP.
I’ve been usng MS products for 20 years. My first MS product was Write for the Atari ST. I’ve been a fan of MS…until now. I’d have to say that Vista has to be the worst thing that ever happened to the PC.
Damn them….
Windows ME is exactly like Vista! 100% GARBAGE!!!!
98SE 2000 XP = GOOD
ME VISTA = SHIT!
Then you have the clowns that defend there vista “”it works good for me no problems to speak of”" COUGH COUGH B.S. Just remember these type of clowns are the same ones who said the same thing about there Windows ME and how great and awsome it was!
So really what were looking at is Windows ME with a paint job.
I have ubuntu linux 7.10, and vista on my laptop.
2.20ghz centrino duo
Dual booting and partitioned, the laptop runs great with the 4gb of ram, (vista only sees 3), and everybody should try ubuntu.
DOWNLOAD UBUNTU, BURN CD, BOOT FROM CD TO TRY!!!
If you like it, install it! its that simple!
At least go look at some screenshots, Ubuntu 7.10 has awesome graphics capabilities, and i honestly think it’s better than vista!
I only use my vista install to run windows software… Ubuntu is awesome!!!
I agree with most of the 20 reasons.
It looks goods and that is about it. Very difficult to navigate. It is like learning the OS and office products all over again and they are intuitive.
It really SUCKS
I agree with most of the 20 reasons.
It looks goods and that is about it. Very difficult to navigate. It is like learning the OS and office products all over again and they are NOT intuitive.
It really SUCKS
Responding to comment #130 by ulTRAX. From the developers of Filehand Search (all three of us).
FHS is still totally free and now works with vista, for the benefit of our many users who have unknowingly upgraded to vista or otherwise found themselves stuck with vista.
When we started developing FHS in 2003, we thought it would be one of the best reasons not to upgrade to vista. At the time, there was a lot of FUD about how the Sloth would kill all desktop search tools.
Well, you know the rest of the vista story all too well.
So, here’s a new chapter. Many of our users upgraded to vista or were stuck with a new vista system. And since vista search is crap we have released a new version of FHS that works with vista. It’s the same program, with some fixes to work with vista.
We did this for our users. It’s still free. The latest version is vista compatible, and the previous (XP) version is still available for XP users.
To FileHand… I’m glad FH is now Vista compatible. Yes the Vista search function really is pretty pathetic. As a file search engine it’s worthless. I see it more as a transparent ploy to cover MS’s attempt leverage Windows in its paranoid war against Google. Today’s MS offer to buy Yahoo is just more evidence of that war… and that MS is driven by some pathological need to vanquish perceived foes just for sport.
As for Filehand, it was one of those rare freebies that everyone should have known about in pre-Vista days but didn’t. If Bill Gates had any sense he would have bought you out as he’s done so many other companies to compensate for Microsoft’s own perpetual lack of skill and creative talent. It’s not just that Vista sucks… Microsoft does! That their kludge has dominated the OS market these past 20 years drives a